Live the Life You’ve Imagined

[00:00:00] As I’m getting into my entrepreneurial journey, I’m really finding that it is so much about the mindset. It is 85% mindset, maybe 15% strategy, and the how. Yeah. I don’t know if you agree Emily agree with that or not, but I just think it just matters so much. And have you read Dr. Carol Dweck’s book Mindset?

Yeah, I got it right over. Yes, there. And that is one that I love that book. It’s one that I talk about at my work, just to have that growth mindset of. You know what? I’m not there yet. I will get there. And just to have that expansive, positive attitude that with perseverance and support coaching, anything’s possible.

And any moment we can choose our mindset, we can choose to try again. We can choose to begin again.

Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you’re listening. Thank you for listening to the Onward [00:01:00] Podcast. This is your host, Emily Harmon. My guest today is Clarissa Castillo Ramsey, and Clarissa is a leadership and life coach for creatives, new leaders, and busy professionals. She’s also a practicing abstract artist in organizational psychologist.

Clarissa’s been an artist since the age of five, and her passion for coaching can be traced back to her childhood and her young adult days. Clarissa was the friend that others sought out for advice, counsel, and encouragement, and now she helps her clients who are feeling burnout and feeling unfulfilled, and she helps them figure out what it is that would get them out of bed each morning.

And she says it’s the cross section between passion, mission, vocation, profession. Also the author of the book, painting Your Path. Her personal mission is to help 1000 high achieving creatives and leaders who want to generate impact and income go from wondering how to share their [00:02:00] talents to becoming empowered leaders by teaching them how to create a vision and execute their plan to live their best life so they can make a difference in the communities they serve.

So we are live on Facebook, Clarissa, and Hi. Hi everybody. I know this is like, didn’t even announce it, but Clarissa and I are doing a podcast interview and I thought, well, especially with the topic that you wanna address. I thought, well, let me just broadcast it. Live in the challenge group. And this is something that I wanna do for my coaching program because my group coaching program is a group that, you know, we can be on Facebook and we can, you know, what I could do is conduct the interviews and then people could ask questions too.

Yeah. Along the way. They could post a question that I could ask or something like that. So we’re just love it. Testing it out. This is, this episode won’t be published until like February or March. So if you watch this, you’re getting a heads up on what this episode’s gonna be about. Sun shining in my background there.

So, Clarissa, welcome to [00:03:00] the Onward Podcast. Thanks so much for having me. Emily. We met through a Facebook group called Don’t Keep Your Day Job. Yes. And uh, that was, but we did, I think you were looking how, how did we meet because I think I volunteered to submit something for your book. Yes. So I started listening to Kathy’s podcast and I just got really inspired to write a book.

I’ve always, that’s been on my bucket list. Is to write a book. And I was at a point in my life where I knew it was, I was feeling that urge to pivot. So for me, every seven to 10 years I tend to reinvent myself. Wow. Move into something else. And it was time. And so I’m an organizational psychologist by background and trade, so I like to do some research.

I’m a researcher at heart and so I wanted to write a book and interview women who. Were pivoting out of the corporate world and pivoting into what they really wanted to do with their life, or whatever that [00:04:00] next chapter was gonna be. So I decided that’s what I was gonna do, was to write a book. And I’m also an artist and I wanted to do an art piece with each interview, and Kathy actually talked about.

Me on one of her episodes, which was cool. Yes. It was the one with Jordan Harbinger, I’ll never forget. And I remember posting in the Facebook group and I said, Hey, I’m looking for women primarily over 40 who are doing their own thing, pivoting out of the corporate world. And then you answered. Mm-hmm. And that’s how we connected.

That’s awesome. Yeah. And I contributed to a chapter, to your book. You interviewed, uh, 21 Women, I think for your book. I did, yes. And they’re all talking. What about like how they made that transition, why they made that transition? Exactly. And it’s so funny, like a couple of them were lawyers and lawyers turned entrepreneur, and pretty much in every one of those stories, the women were like, you know what?

I didn’t even really wanna do this. I just thought, [00:05:00] let me just do something that. Safe or reputable or makes good money and they all just Oh, be a lawyer. Yeah, be a lawyer. Yeah. And they just said, you know what, this is not who I am. Time to pivot out. I know a lawyer that, um, on the side, she writes romance novels under a certain Oh, I love it.

That’s so cool. She’s a government contracting lawyer, so it’s kind of, it’s pretty cool. So what are your lessons that you learned from that book? Like what did it take for these women to follow their heart? I think a lot of them just got to a breaking point where they just said, you know what? Enough is enough for some of them health opportunities just presented themselves and they just said, you know what?

This job is literally killing me. You said health opportunity, health opportunities. I think Ive said health challenge, but you call it an opportunity. That’s awesome. Yeah, an opportunity to work through that and address it, so yeah, and for a couple of them it was. That’s how this was all manifesting. And then for a lot of others, [00:06:00] it was just always that, that voice in the back of their head where they wanted to, they had an idea, they wanted to try it, and then they finally just got the courage to just shift and pivot.

One story. A friend of mine who I used to work with at a former job, She always hosted, like, uh, we called it Stitch and Bitch and it was just a crafting afternoon or whatever. And so, and she’s a jewelry maker and after we all left that company, she just, she and I kept in touch and she always talked about, you know, I’ve always wanted to put this club together and, and so she finally did it and it was just great to see so many of those ideas that have been brewing in people’s minds come to fruition.

Were they. At first, like insecure about doing it. Cuz some people might think, yes, I have ideas, but those people are different than me because they, they can do it. I can’t, my inner critic says I can’t. I’ve got all these reasons why I can’t. Did those people have these reasons? Oh, [00:07:00] absolutely. There were, I would say definitely a majority versus a minority of women thought, can I really do this?

I don’t know if I can, I just don’t know if I have the energy to do it. Fill in the blank. They all, not all of them, but most of them had that feeling for sure. Yeah, I have it. Yeah. Daily. Yes. I think you still have it even as once you’ve made that pivot or whatever. And that’s why I do find, I’m in a group, couple group coaching programs and then then in a mastermind and I think.

Who you surround yourself with helps you get through those times when you’re like, Ugh, I don’t know if I can do this. I don’t know if I’m doing, yes, I’m accomplishing what I set out to accomplish. Yeah, me too, Emily. I’m in a couple of coaching programs and for the first time in my life I feel like I’m the dumbest person in the room.

But I’m also excited by that too. I think I’ve just have been in my comfort zone for a while, being the expert at my job [00:08:00] and I’m trying new things and being in these groups where people are probab, I feel like they’re like five, 10 steps ahead of me, and it’s just great to learn from them and to also know that they have.

Fears and doubts too. Yeah. So I’m not alone. You’re not alone. Not alone. You’re not alone. Yeah. I know somebody who had a, um, had a group coaching program and when people were quote unquote done, cause I don’t think you’re ever, it was about right. Discovering your authentic self and stuff similar to mine, I don’t know that you’re ever done, but people wanted to stay in the group because they loved contributing and helping the new people coming in, which I think is cool cause Oh, that’s cool.

You learn as you, when you’re giving. Back. You’re learning as well. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. So you said you’re getting ready to pivot again. Tell us the different times in your life that you’ve, a little bit about your life and the different times when you’ve like reinvented yourself or done something.

Sure. Yeah. I’ll go back [00:09:00] to my childhood, real short story. So I knew like from the time I was five, I wanted to be an artist. So I, I so identify with that. Being an artist. And I also knew at a young age that I just, I loved working with people and just helping people shine. So those art and coaching have just been a running thread through my life.

And when I was in my twenties, I had, I mean, I had those interests, but I didn’t have the confidence yes, in who the hell am I? What am I doing? And so I just took a job. Outta college. I started in retail management. Hated it. Oh my gosh. Hated it so much. But I thought, well this is work. I guess this is normal.

You’re not supposed to like work. Right, right. I’m not supposed to like work, but this is a horrible environment. And then I started drawing again and doodling, cuz that is something that I kind of left behind in my childhood. But I found myself just being interested in drawing again and. I just [00:10:00] decided, and I was in Boston at that time.

I went to school at, uh, Boston College, and I was like, you know what? I’m done. I’m done with the snow. I’m done with the East Coast. It’s been great. My friends have moved on. It is time for me to move on, and I would show my artwork to my coworkers at my retail job, and they were all like, oh my God, Clarissa, you’re so good.

You should really do something with this. And I think it was just all of those. Events, me being done with Boston, me getting like affirmation from my coworkers about my art and I always had an interest in, not always, but I had this new interest in graphic design. Mm-hmm. That was something, that was a new, new-ish thing.

This was like early, early nineties, mid nineties, and I just decided, you know what, it’s time for me to. To learn that. And so I picked up and moved and came out to California, which is where I I’m at now. Good job. No job. I like my brother. My brother was in California. He [00:11:00] went to Caltech. My best friend was out in California, so at least I had people that I could be with.

I had family and friends, so I just picked up and I just. Had a tiny bit of money and whatever I had and moved out west and it was time to pivot and so I went to graphic design school, figured out how I was gonna make money. I just temped. So I temped from eight to five. I went to school from six to 10, Monday through Friday for 18 months.

Wow. And yes, and then that is how I got into my graphic design career and it took me a while to get a job. So then again, all these like limiting beliefs, right? Come in. Oh my gosh, I spent how much money on this school. I can’t find a job. But my mom was really there to just. Encourage me and just, she was the one that said, keep going.

Just keep going. That’s awesome. Keep trying, keep persevering and you’ll get to where you wanna be. So eventually I found a job and I was an internal graphic designer [00:12:00] for a coffee and tea company. Loved it. I was in my mid twenties. Just really enjoying it. But then after probably about five, six years, I found myself okay, I feel like I’ve exhausted this.

I really don’t have any ambition to be the top art director of anything. And then my interest on the people side of business started. Coming forward because in college I took up marketing because I thought, that’s creative. I can be an artist and marketer somehow. And I also took up human resources because that was the human side of business.

So, The whole like graphic design thing kind of faded away and what was coming to the forefront? What I was really noticing was just dysfunction in the company I was at, right? And one consultant came in and I just loved what she did. She did a facilitation on employee engagement. So I started talking with her.

I started talking with our HR director, and then I just knew it’s time to pivot again. It’s time to pivot [00:13:00] and go into more of the organizational behavior side. So I decided, you know what? I think I’m gonna go back to school and pursue this degree in organizational psychology. And so I did that and left like part-time or, well, I was working full-time and I negotiated with my company to keep me.

At a full-time, but I only worked three days a week. So at the beginning it was easy to do grad school and work because the classes were introductory. Right. And, and it wasn’t so difficult. But then when I got to statistics, I’m not, that is not my brain. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I had to figure something else out.

And so the company that I was at, we agreed to part ways cuz it was just too much. I couldn’t. Fulfill their needs, and I just couldn’t be there. So I just decided to take some time off and I visited a friend and just got away, didn’t work, and just went to [00:14:00] school. And then I changed schools because I needed to do something that was more for an adult.

Like adult learning program and for somebody who wants to work, if that makes sense. So I switched to an executive format where it was just once a month on the weekend. So that worked out. And I eventually found a job in an HR consulting company and I actually took a job that I really didn’t care for, but I’m one of those people that’s like, you know what, I’ll make it work.

I’ll figure my way through this organization and I’ll learn what I need to do. I’ll get the skills that that are gonna help me. So I was going to school on the weekends and then took on this new job and just got some organizational consulting experience. Eventually, I headed our customer service team and got what I got from that company, and then when it was close to graduation from grad school, I went to this training program and I really wanted to get into coaching.

So [00:15:00] I went and I took a coaching program and thought, okay, I gotta pivot out of this company. I got what I felt like I could get out of it. So let me just put out in the universe it’s time to be on my coaching. Coaching way. So I told my friends and family, Hey, this is, I’m loving my, I’m loving organizational psychology.

I’m really into coaching. This is what I want to do. And I was in this training session talking about it, talking about wanting to pivot into. An internal coaching position at an organization. And we went on a break and I checked my phone messages and one of my friends had left me a voicemail and said, Hey Clarissa, I think I have the perfect job for you.

It’s to be an internal coach in our organization. Would you be interested in interviewing? And I was like, oh my God, what? And did this friend know, had you told her or about your plans or your dream to do that or did she not know? I think she, she knew that I was interested in it, but like, I just didn’t think, I honestly [00:16:00] didn’t think it would happen so quickly.

Quickly. I think that after me talking about it, That’s the importance of like telling people what your dreams are, putting in a Yep. First. Right. Because if people don’t know, then they th they’re not, they can’t help you. Exactly. Exactly. And so I was so happy when I came back from that lunch break to tell the group that I was with, oh my gosh.

This is amazing. And so that’s where I’m at now. So I’ve been with that organization for the past 10 years and have gotten promoted a couple of times and it’s been a great ride. And, um, again, at the point where it’s like, okay, it’s time for me to, to shift. Why is it time to shift? Like, you’re, you’re comfortable, you wanna get outta your comfort zone.

I do. Hard to get antsy. I mean, what is it? I am, I’m getting antsy and I’m starting and I’ve always wanted to work for myself at some point. Okay. So I feel like it’s, that time is now. Okay. Are you scared? Yeah, I’m scared a little bit, but I’ve been, I’m building my ramp [00:17:00] and it’s something, and this is something that I have talked to my boss about, so this is, I’ve been, it’s not, it’s not a secret.

I mean, the whole entire company doesn’t know unless they happen to watch this podcast, but I feel really blessed to be supported by her. It was kind of scary to have that conversation, but she knows me well. We’ve worked together for the last seven years and I just feel good. So what do you, you know, I’m sure you have an inner critic that says, Clarissa, come on, you can’t do this.

What do you, what are you doing? You’ve got a secure job. What are you doing? How do you, how do you handle your inner critic? Because everybody has one. Oh my gosh. I just like, anytime something comes up, In my brain. I say out loud, and this might sound funny, but this was something I learned at a self-development training.

I just say, cancel. Cancel. I say, cancel, cancel. Like if a thought comes in, I just say, cancel. Cancel. And I just have to get back to my. Why, like who am I taking a stand for? What do I care [00:18:00] about? And just come back to, I wanna make a difference. It’s not just about like looking good at a job, although I have helped so many people there, which I’m thankful for.

I’ve gotten the experience coaching in that organization, so it’s really just about coming back to my why. And telling my inner critic. Okay, I hear you. And cancel. Cancel. How do you figure out your why? Like if you’ve just been working, working, working, head down, taking care of other people, how does one come about their dreams and their why if they’ve never really taken time?

Yeah, so an exercise that I did was really just write down memorable moments in my life, positive, negative, whatever it is, and. And in, you know, journaling, I like to journal. There was always a common thread of creating new possibilities. Mm-hmm. And so that I would say is like my big umbrella. Why is just helping people, helping myself create new [00:19:00] possibilities in my life.

So whether that is. Being an artist and getting your loving, wanting to share your work, getting it out there. Maybe you wanna pivot into a different career. And these are the kinds of conversations that I’ve had with people and have helped people just come back to themselves. Yeah. And what do they do that I think something I didn’t used to do with is journaling and spending quiet time with yourself.

Cause my way of avoiding myself was to stay really busy. Right. Yes. And I tend to, and I’m an, I’m an introvert by nature, so I, I get. A lot of energy by stepping away and, um, and journaling. And you know what else is great? Therapy. Therapy and coaching. I have a counselor that’s really helping me the, for the first time, a counselor that’s helping because she’s helping me with like breathing exercises and I.

Kini yoga and things like that. Yes. And by doing that feelings that I had suppressed [00:20:00] through all my time in the military and just head down dealing with my kids and everything are starting to come up, and then I’m learning how to deal with them and clear them and get rid of them and be more in the present.

And name my feelings. You know, I think a lot of, especially Americans, I’ve read this one book about like feelings. We know good, bad, happy, sad, you know, we just, yeah. Don’t have other names for our feelings. Exactly. Yeah. And I think me too, like in my culture, like we suppress. A lot of our emotions, like it was okay to show happy, good, yeah.

Emotions, but not anger, not rage, not disappointment. And so as an adult, like I have been really working on that too. Right? Part of discovering who you are entails going back and looking at your childhood, understanding what you liked in your childhood, understanding how you were brought up. It’s not a way to blame your parents.

No, just. Understanding more who you are, like what shaped you. And that’s exactly my [00:21:00] coaching program. Probably yours too. So what do you think? Yeah, what, what’s important about like coaching or you know, group coaching or individual coaching and therapy? What’s helped you? I think for me it’s just helped me deal with those emotions that I just didn’t want to deal with.

And I think really that’s been it to help me sort through my childhood and get to the point where, you know what? My parents were just doing the best they knew how to do. Right? Yeah. And cuz I used to blame my mom, for my mom when I told her I wanted to be an artist, she was like, oh no, that is a bad profession.

You’re gonna be famous after you’re dead, da da da. And I held onto that for a, for a long time, and then I finally got, you know what? She’s a doctor, she’s about stability and all that. And, and she was just coming from a good place. And I think with coaching, you know, cause I feel like coaching is, is there to help us move forward and reach new levels.

And that’s why I think it’s so important. I’m working with a couple of coaches and I’m in a, you know, in a couple of [00:22:00] programs and it is worth it a hundred percent. Me too. Yeah. One of my coaches says Never invest in a coach who’s not investing in him or herself. Right, right. So, yes, I love, uh, being in coaching programs cause it pushes me.

I’m an overachiever, I like to achieve. I can tell you there is no way I would be where I am right now. What I’ve accomplished in the past year and a half. Without having coaches, I would’ve given up. Yes. I can tell you I would’ve given up because it’s scary, right? Yeah. And I think, you know, and, and they have, you know, probably gone to where you wanna go and they have really good insight.

And so I just also wanna shortcut. Yeah, too. They can see your blind spots too. Things that you can’t see. Oh, yes. So you were saying that you, you know, had a difficult childhood in terms of racism. Um, you wanna talk about that a little bit? Yeah, it was just, you know, I, so I was born in Detroit. I was born in Michigan.

Have very happy memories there. We moved to Texas to a very small [00:23:00] town when I was five, and I just, I mean, I just felt like an outsider. It was the town. I think the town was. I forget, I don’t know. It was very small. Mm-hmm. And I just felt like, oh gosh, there’s really nobody like me, like who looks like me and people didn’t know where the Philippines was.

And I just felt just like an outsider and got called all kinds of names and you know, although it was really tough, it also taught me to. Like, okay, don’t be like that. And really like open your mind to different people. And although it was really challenging, I also got the hell out of there when I turned 18 and I moved to Boston.

Yeah. Yeah. So I wish that we could just not look at people like, you’re white, you’re black, you’re Filipino, you’re male. Right? We’re all people and we all have something valuable to bring to this world. Even if Absolutely. Like or look alike. [00:24:00] Yeah. Yeah. So what has you, um, listed some things that you wanted to talk about and one of them was mindset.

How has minds know what, what would you like to say about mindset and the importance of mindset? I just think it is, As I’m getting into my entrepreneurial journey, I’m really finding that it is so much about the mindset. It is like 85% mindset, maybe 15% strategy, and the how. Yeah. I don’t know if you agree Emily agreed with that or not.

Yeah. But I just think it just matters so much. And have you read Dr. Carol Dweck’s book Mindset? Yep, I got it. Right over. Yes there. Yep. And that is one that, I love that book. It’s one that I talk about at my work, just to have that growth mindset of, you know what, I’m not there yet. I will get there. And just to have that expansive, positive attitude that with perseverance and support coaching anything’s possible.

And in any moment we can choose our mindset. We can choose to try [00:25:00] again. We can choose to begin again, and that that’s really it. Is just to not be deterred. Not be deterred, but do you know when, when you really should stop something or pivot or when you really should push through? And it’s a mindset issue I think for me.

That’s where having a support team, having like the coaches that I work with just to talk through things. And I think for me it’s, if I have a, for me, I don’t know, I’m very in tune with my body. So for me, if I have this feeling in my tummy that is, you know, I’m just gonna call it unsettling. Yeah. I know.

For me that is, I’m on the precipice of something and I need to push through. Ooh. For some people might be like that. I need to stop cuz I’m just going Too scary. No, you’re like, I’m, this is a, yeah. Exciting time for me, it’s like, it’s nervous and exciting and I think, I don’t know where I heard it, but like anxiousness and excitement or kind of just, they’re the same feeling, but it’s just the mindset [00:26:00] difference.

Mm-hmm. So for me, if I’m feeling that tingling in my stomach a little bit, butterflies. But I’m scared. Do I push through? Do I keep going? To me, that’s a sign of, yes. And if I’m feeling constriction, like here in my chest and through my throat, and every time I think of this project that I’m, whatever I’m working on, if it is like a tightness here, then for me that’s a sign.

It’s a sign for me to just, maybe not abandon it completely, but pause and really get curious. I think, um, too, in order to be in tune with your body like that, you need to spend some time just with you. You need to, that journaling helps. I mean, just a, a story. I, I had somebody once that was interested possibly in, um, a coaching program that I was doing, and I was talking, we set up a Zoom call and during the Zoom call, this person was doing all these other things, like their dishes.

They’re doing this, this, this, this, this. They couldn’t focus for 15 minutes on that Zoom call and. That was [00:27:00] concerning because I thought that person is not gonna be able to get in touch. That person was me at one point. I was like, yeah, sure. I I, I know that where I’m just so busy. I don’t have time. You know?

I, I, yes. I’ll talk to you about, um, I’m interested in your coaching program. I’ll talk to you about it, but, you know, look, I’ve got all this stuff to do. I’m gonna empty my dishwasher while I’m talking to you. I’m gonna go, yeah, let me multitask and be efficient. Multitask. You’re doing all of that, then you, it’s really hard.

To get in tune with yourself and even notice those feelings that come up. Right. And I have, you know, and also just to share, Emily, I have been doing yoga for decades and I’ve been doing a lot of mind body, spirit stuff. There is a place in San Diego called Optimum Health Institute. There’s also one in Austin, Texas.

And that’s what we, you know, that’s the focus is all about the mind and the body and the spirit. And I think that has really helped me get even more. Grounded and that’s how I know when to push forward and, and maybe when [00:28:00] to, okay, yeah, I need to really look at something here. That’s awesome. So what are the key takeaways from your book?

And you wrote it to, you have art, piece of art with each chapter. I like that. But what are the key takeaways from these 21 women that you interviewed from these 21 women? It’s really feel the fear and do it anyway, I would say is the main takeaway. And if you have this. Idea that has been brewing and brewing and brewing your intuition, your inner voice, whatever you wanna call it, pay attention.

Pay attention to it. It’s not gonna go away until you explore it. And it may not be what you do five years from now, but it’s there. Um, that voice is talking to you. Pay attention to it. And let me think what else was another big one. And just, you know, be in community as well. And it’s so important to talk about what you’re, what you’re interested in.

Like you said, people need to know what you’re up to. Yeah. So that they can help you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I remember once I was talking to a friend of mine and I told her, [00:29:00] this is before Covid hit, but I said, you know, I, I really wanna get more speaking engagements. And she got me like three. Right. Oh my gosh.

You know, just by putting, putting out there, I mean, people dunno. Yes. They dunno what you’re doing. They don’t, aren’t gonna be able to help you. Yes. Um, networking is really, is really important and for me, that’s outta my comfort zone. But I’ve learned to do that more. And you, you want to just network, establish relationships.

I see that happening. People might say during Covid, you know, we’re alone, but I see it happening a lot within my circle. People. Oh yeah. I am, people are connecting me to different people left and right. I’m making so many new friends during Covid. I have all these little, little short phone conversations where I get to know people because Yes.

Recommended and it’s awesome. Me too. I have found, because I’m similar to you, like I. Whenever I hear the word networking, it’s not necessarily my favorite word, but I would say like in these covid times, I have been, so many people have reached out to me through the different circles that I’m in [00:30:00] and through Kathy’s group.

So it’s just been amazing how many people that I have met. Yeah. So it’s What’s next for you? What is next for me? Yes. So I am continuing on my path and also I’m, I have more writing. That’s in me. So I think in 2021 I might be putting out another book of sorts. Mm-hmm. So I’ll just say that here to hold me accountable.

You think where you are? Because I do that too. I go online and I tell people what I’m gonna do. That holds me accountable. You think where you’re, you are I? I will. I will. Yeah. Yeah. I’m not exactly, these might be more creative endeavors with my artwork, but I started drafting a journal. So a journal for artists.

So that is something that I am, uh, working on. So I, I know that’ll come out in 2021. And just ex just having fun with, I do vision board workshops. I just started that up again and I know I’m gonna be doing another speaker summit [00:31:00] series in probably March, April of 2021. And what’s the speaker Summit? Yes.

So LA in September. I hosted a 30 speaker event, and it was called From Employee to Entrepreneur, where I interviewed different thought leaders, coaches, CEOs, and it was all around going from being an employee to an entrepreneur. What do we need to know? What could we learn? And so I had so much fun doing that.

Emily, I’m gonna do it again. So, That’s, that’s, it’s coming up. Say you’re gonna make a journal. So it’d be like, I’m looking for one of my journals. I don’t have it here. But, you know, like a, a journal that people can buy at a store, right? Yes. Or online. Do you even know how to online? Do you get it mass produced?

Wouldn’t that be something that holds you back? You know, I wanna create a journal, but I, I really don’t know how to get it out there. Who would buy it? Oh my gosh, yes. And I just think, you know what? I feel like if maybe if I want this thing, there’s gotta be at least one other person out [00:32:00] in the world who wants it.

So if I can just help one person, let me start there. Let me start there. And I think having done my book, published my book, now I have an idea of what to do. And also YouTube is great. YouTube and Google, you know, whenever I feel stuck, it’s like, hmm, let me Google that. Let me look at, let me look on YouTube and see if there’s anything I can find.

There’s so many resources out there. And then in some of your coaching groups, I’m sure you know, yes, people are publishing journals, new day planners, stuff like that all the time. So you can too. Exactly. Absolutely. Yeah. Oh, I’m excited. So how can people thank you, uh, find your book and find out more about you.

Sure. My book, painting Your Path is available on Amazon, so if you just put in Painting Your Path, it’ll pop up. And if you wanna connect with me, there’s a couple different ways. I am really active on Instagram and my handle is c r. Those are my initials underscore sunshine. And I actually have two Facebook groups.

[00:33:00] One is called Self-Care Leadership with Pat and Clarissa, and the other one is called From Employee to Entrepreneur Mindset. Thank you so much for being on the Onward Podcast. I really appreciate it. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you for listening to my interview with Clarissa. I hope that you enjoyed it as much as I did.

One of the things we talked about pretty much throughout the entire episode was coaching Clarissa’s a coach. I’m a coach, and we both have coaches and are in coaching groups and masterminds. They keep us going. They help push us. When we start to feel a little down, they motivate us. And we in turn can motivate others that are in the group as well.

So I encourage all of my listeners to work with a coach, especially if you’re working on creating the life of your dreams or leaving your comfort zone. It’s really, really hard to do things like that all on your own. I find the support of a [00:34:00] coach really worth it. So if you’re interested in finding a coach for yourself, feel free to contact me.

Feel free to contact Clarissa, and if we’re not a right fit for you, we will help you find a coach that is a right fit for you. That’s the most important thing. I’ve started the Onward Accelerator Group Coaching program, and I put a link to that in the show notes if you’re interested. Also in the show notes are links on how to reach Clarissa.

So the main thing we want all coaches want is for their clients. And even if you’re not our clients, to succeed to really live your best. Life. All right. Have a great day.[00:35:00]