How to Live From the Heart and Intuition

[00:00:00] really want to mention too, is the fifth, fourth shift, which is very mind driven to, you know, we are often in a mode of learning. We want to learn and learn and learn the next you know, core. So we want the next, a new shiny object, the next retreat, or the next book, or the course and everything.

Right. That’s me. That was me. And it’s still something that I, I noticed it’s like, oh, well maybe I should do that. Or I should do that. Or there’s another book I should read and I should read that. Yeah. And we often stay in that mode. We stay in it, it accumulates up here because when we learn all the time, it stays often in our mind and we process it that way.

I mean, I have a huge bookshelf with self-help books. Right. But it’s, the shift itself is actually to embody what we learned. [00:01:00] Becoming that. And that’s a chapter in the book, how to shift that mode of learning and take all of that and embody it and become it because that’s when the true transformation happens.

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 Hi everybody. Thank you for watching tonight. I’m excited to be here. And my guest, Dale Rica is in the green room and I’m going to be bringing her on in just a minute. We’re going to be talking about how to live life from the heart and intuition. You know, I’ve, I’ve recently discovered that, you know, pretty much most of my life I was living from my, like my, my mind, my thinking brain.

And since I’ve retired, I’ve discovered a whole new way of being, and it’s taken quite a bit of time for me to adjust, but it’s so much a better way of being. And for those of you who follow me for the past three years, you’ve probably seen the change. And I’ve said that the change isn’t because I retired, I’m just as busy have as much to do the change is because I’ve [00:03:00] learned to.

Trust my heart to trust, to listen to my intuition. I’ve learned to slow down and to quiet my mind and to live a completely different way that I didn’t even realize was available to us. I just thought you had to kind of push through. So we’re going to be talking about that tonight. I bet you Eureka had the same realization.

She’s a former scientist turned coach and we both are graduates from the Institute of professional excellence in coaching AIPAC. And well Rica welcome. Hello? How are you, Emily? Yeah, I saw that you had posted in our AIPAC, you know, our, our coaching organizations, Facebook group, that you had just written this book. And let me show the title of the book in the caption. It’s wisdom beyond what, what, you know, how to shift from being driven by the mind, to living from the heart and the intuition.

And I was like, [00:04:00] oh, I got to interview her because that’s basically what I’ve been doing for the past three years is learning that. And so welcome. Glad you’re here. Thank you so much, Emily. So tell us a little bit about your background. Like you were a scientist, you probably still are a scientist, but you know, you’re a scientist, but then you switched to becoming a personal coach.

Tell us about that and about your background. Yes. My background is really science and business and I spent about 22 plus years and pharmaceutical research and development. That was my career. I started out as a scientist at the bench and I, I, I did everything pretty much in, in the pharmaceutical industry at the time.

Now, a few years ago I hit rock bottom and a lot of people do hits rock bottoms of some sort. But for me, it hits my career because that was how I identified myself. [00:05:00] I was completely, if you will married to my job. And if somebody asked me Rica, what do you do for fun? I really had no answer at the time.

So that’s how. In a way disconnected from my own assets. I was without realizing it, but it led me to a rock bottom. And at that time I was given a choice. I realized in hindsight that basically the universe was orchestrating this, this major shift for me because I truly was ready to step into my life’s work, but I didn’t realize it at the time.

But After that rock bottom. I’m just telling you a short story here, more in the book about it, and it gave me an opportunity to make a choice. It, I, should I go and kind of go about the way I approach life, which was very much, you know, the go go, go. I had a [00:06:00] high pressure, high paid corporate job and with travel and, you know, you know, all the, all the things or would I actually step into the unknown and go down the path of evolving if you will, and transforming.

And I did go down the path of, of transformation and things started to happen. And here you are. I mean, so, so it started with one day, somebody asking you, what do you do for fun? And you realizing I don’t know. That’s how I know that was, that was I realized that in hindsight that I really wasn’t tapped into my own essence.

What makes me me, I was fulfilling some sort of, you know, template of how success looks like and how many of us can relate to that in some shape or form that, you know, there are expectations of us. We have to have the degrees, we have to have the, [00:07:00] you know, the, the great jobs that high paying jobs, and we have to do all these things.

Right. And what happened to me specifically was that I was let go from my job. And if you can imagine, if you identify yourself with your career, like that was the whole world fell down for me, obviously. So often these rock bottoms hits us where we what matters the most to us. And for me, Obviously he wants to career.

Well, yeah. I interviewed a woman named Ramona a few weeks ago and she had gotten laid off from her job. And she said that it wasn’t until after that happened, that she realized she, she thought it was a job she loved. And then she realized, well, it was producing TV shows and she was in cold room all the time, getting sick, you know, had to ask somebody for permission to take a vacation.

You know, when she looked back on it, she realized, well, maybe it wasn’t really my dream job. And now she’s really created a [00:08:00] life that she really loves living. And she said that one of her friends had told her, you know, you are going to someday write your boss, send your boss flowers for thanking him.

She said it took eight years, but she, she actually was ready at some point to thank him because it was the best thing that happened to her. So, yeah. And how many years ago was that? So this must have been 2014, so it’s a quite a few years, but there was a journey also, this is, you know, not a flip of a switch to get to where I’m at today, but that’s, that’s really was the, the releasing factor pivoting to a career that I have now.

And it could be different for everybody. For me, it was, I was tired of, I started to realize I’m tired of this traveling and go, go, go. And so I thought I can retire at 56, my rent, minimum retirement age. That’s what I’m going to do in life is going to be perfect. [00:09:00] And I was still go, go, go. I didn’t know how to slow down.

I was busy and I was addicted to busy. I’m sure you’ve probably had people that you’ve coached. Yeah, that’s I it, it was really a life where there was no space for me. Like truly for me in my life. And that’s what we commonly kind of get into as women. We and many men too, is that we are trying to fulfill this expectation of us and to the expense of our own wellbeing and harmony in life.

Yeah. And you think that you’re doing what you should do? You’re, you’re helping out other people. You’ve got this well paying job. I mean, what were the biggest challenges for you when you got laid off and how did you switch to this career? So for me I had [00:10:00] become a well, I had taken back my yoga practice actually just maybe a year, half a year, but I was basically led into become a yoga teacher.

And I did that while I had my corporate job. But that was also a gateway to start linking my body experience with my mind, because I was so up so much up in my logic and my head, if you can imagine that that was the gateway into linking the body mind soul, if you will. And starting that transformation.

So that was one thing that happened. And synchronistically a few years later, I was on a website or I think it was uncommon on a, on some Facebook group that, oh, if somebody no, a great coaching there was some [00:11:00] conversation about coaching and somebody posted the link to the school that we both went to to certify as a professional coach.

You know how things happen. Sometimes it’s synchronistically. I clicked on the link and there it was right. It was this inner feeling of, I have to look this up further. So things started to happen to me. Things was, were put in front of me and then I become came an energy healer a few years later in that.

And yeah, so it’s, it’s this opening. Once we decide, show me the unknown, show me what more is there for me. Right. And if we can put ourselves out of our our comfort zone yeah. That’s, what’s starting to happen. And, and yeah. I’m happy. Yeah, definitely. So Sylvia asked a question. Do you teach yoga online?

I don’t teach yoga [00:12:00] online right now. No, but I the yoga practice I have a membership where I include energy practices, yoga as part of a bigger picture of integration and what I teach in my book as well. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. And a Facebook user says, this is a great show. I needed to hear this tonight.

Yeah. Sometimes that’s a synchronicity happening for you. Sometimes things happen for a reason like this Facebook user says, and you tune into a show. That’s like, oh, I really needed to hear this tonight. And you kind of, I think what happened to you and, and me Eureka is kind of woke up. Right. We kind of like, oh, I’ve just been like, go, go, go, go, go putting everyone else.

First, no time for me. And you start to realize that there’s, you start to see things happen in front of you and stuff, and you start to see that there’s another way [00:13:00] of, of living and it’s no accident probably that you and I discovered the AIPAC international. Oh wait is two for professional excellence in coaching, because it’s all about core energy coaching.

Do you want to describe that? Yeah. So core energy is really what we’re made of our essence. And I think that the bottom line really w of core energy coaching is that we need to we can benefit from learning how we run energy, basically, and being interested in that. And I I’m just simplifying here.

It’s, it’s a whole concept, right. But same thing. We can learn how to align with our natural energy. And once we do that as a result, there’s less frustration, less resistance [00:14:00] in our lives. And it’s also a a way that we can elevate ourselves on, on this ladder of energy, if you will. And it starts with identifying.

How, what goes through our mind? What are we telling ourselves? And, and that’s really where the beginning starts about that curiosity. Like, what is it really? What, what am I telling myself on a daily basis? Right. Cause a lot of times we’re not aware of what are we’re telling ourselves. And then our thoughts lead to our feelings, which generate, you know, And based on those thoughts and feelings, we take action or inaction.

And I really like the energy leadership index assessment that you can get through. An APEC certified coach, which tells you basically, you know, there’s seven levels of energy one and two or lower levels and draining. And then three through seven [00:15:00] are incrementally higher levels of energy. And we need, none of ’em are good or bad.

And we, we spend time in those different energy levels throughout the day. And the thing that I like about it is recognizing when you’re in those low energy levels and realizing that you can actually. Change or you can decide, I need to be like yesterday after coming back from visiting my son and my grandson, I decided I’m just going to withdraw and be in this energy level one.

And I’m just going to chill and withdraw from social media, whatever. I just needed that time for me. So yeah, it’s P it’s positive self-talk and it’s, it’s more than that though. It’s, it’s recognizing like, you know, I used to think that energy level, what we talk about in our coaching is energy level three, that energy level three was good energy.

It’s like, and it is good energy, but I didn’t realize there’s another way, even, you know, other higher levels of energy that you [00:16:00] can choose to be in, because I spent most of my life and energy level three, which is finding the silver lining, pushing forward, you know, making the best of it. And then. Other ways of being, but I think that in energy level three, you’re living, you’re not paying attention to your heart and intuition as much.

Did I get that right? Absolutely. And do you want to expand on that? Yes. And also if we go up in the energy levels and this is just an imaginative Terri kind of ladder, but it, it has to do with also how we perceive our environment and relationships and our interactions with others. And often when we go up that ladder, we have for example, more that sense of a win-win interaction with somebody instead of he or C, she said this, and I’m upset about it, that, and you know, the back and forth higher energy [00:17:00] levels comes with the feeling of.

Togetherness, if you will, even, if there is a difference between opinions, for example, they can always come out a good outcome of an interaction. And that’s where that perception and where that way of approaching things. We come out with a, an energy of collaboration or co-creation in a, in a much different way than if we’re kind of here and she is this, I need this, but he, and she can’t give it to me or, you know, that difference of quality in the lower levels of energy good and bad, right.

And wrong that in a way disappears or not disappears, but it becomes different. Yeah. In the higher energy levels, I think at the higher energy levels while I know. External circumstances don’t impact you as much don’t impact [00:18:00] your inner peace. Correct? That’s how I, I experience it. And, but sometimes they’re, they’re more challenging, external circumstances and it takes practice.

Like I’m pretty much there with not the huge challenges in my life. When there’s a huge challenge and stuff, I can go down, I can, I can, it’s not as intuitive for me to get to get back. I can, I, sometimes I have a coach that helps me like, okay, what’s another way of looking at this. I know there is one, but I can’t see it right now.

I think that’s why it helps to have to have a coach. I always tell people if you’re going to invest in a coach, invest in a coaches, who’s got a coach themselves. Right. Because I think it’s helpful for us, but sometimes. With big challenge. Quote-unquote big challenges. It’s harder to, it can be harder to be objective and it just takes practice.

You’ve been doing it a lot longer than me. You, you started [00:19:00] AIPAC when in 2014. It was a few years later until I graduated in 2018, I believe. Okay. Yeah. So tell us about your, your book that you just published. Right? And people can get it on your website, which I’ll post in a minute, which is just your first and last name.com, but wisdom beyond what you know, how to shift from being driven by the mind, to living from the heart and intuition, what or what inspired you to write this book?

Tell us about the writing process and, you know, stole all of it. I want to hear about it. Yes. I’m so excited to talk about this because it’s a very. Practical, I call it spiritual self-help book and many you know, books like this comes with a big theory or some idea. But what I put in this book is actually coaching exercises as well, that are opening you [00:20:00] up to actually embody what is taught in the book.

And what inspired me to write the book was really, again, what I teach others is to trust your intuition. And it basically came to me that I’ve always loved books, but to see myself as an author, that’s that’s takes a bit, but I felt I was ready to, to write this book. Part of it is also my own stories, but also it’s my own analysis of, of you know, how we for example, the first part is about mind driven, ways of being, which could were outlined some of the very common patterns that we all have identified ourselves with, such as people pleasing, such as ignoring our own needs and working hard for success.

For example, is one chapter. So it outlines in the beginning, some of the [00:21:00] opportunities to identify yourself with what goes on in your own life. Because for so long, we have been following this template or being taught how success looks like. Yeah. Then the second part of the book is focused on giving you the fundamentals of heart-centered living.

And we’ve talked a lot about energy and energy awareness is one of the components of heart-centered living SIM in addition to creativity, inspiration, connecting with nature, for example and, and things like that. So the, a couple of chapters and giving you those fundamentals. And a lot of the things that I bring up there is if people are aware of, but don’t do it, they don’t get into, I mean, how many times a day do you connect with with a tree or Roman times a day?

Are you thinking of how am I, am I in my [00:22:00] essence, in my creativity right now. And how inspired am I right now? Yes. Many people say, I don’t never, I know about all these things, but I don’t really, what am I doing with it? Can I, can I do something with it? So that’s what I wanted to put in the book. Just to give kind of what is this heart-centered living all about.

Now? The third part of the book is really seven inner shifts that we’ll take into, you know, from all the, all the mind driven world we’re living into our heart and intuition. Okay. It, it gives you a practical analysis and prac my stories as well and exercises on how to integrate this. And the shifts are the first shift for example, is getting out of our comfort zone and shifting into a commitment to ourselves [00:23:00] and our transformation.

Yeah. Because without that, it like nothing’s gonna be different in our lives. And it goes into these seven shifts, which are yeah, exciting to talk about. Yeah. Well, and we will talk about them. I was, I had a guest last week and I asked, well, how does, how does someone do this? And, you know, the thing he said is first it’s a decision.

It’s a decision. It’s a decision to leave your comfort zone. I mean, I, don’t why you became a coach after being a scientist for so long, you know, that’s what you need. I became, when I retired from working for the Navy, everyone was telling me what I should do the next logical step, which would be to go be a government contracting consultant.

And I noticed that that made that I didn’t really get energy, but I noticed that that made me go and what I’m doing now makes me go. Yes. So that’s [00:24:00] a way of paying attention to your heart and your intuition. Like when you think of going to work in the, or, or some of the things that you do throughout the day, it’s hard.

Sometimes it can be, if you’re just really busy, go, go, go push, push, push, but paying attention. One of my coaches says, notice what you’re noticing. Notice your longings and discontent, like how notice, how you’re feeling notice what gives you energy and what makes you go, Ugh, I just don’t want to do that.

And then, yeah, I could have made a lot of money probably being a government consultant, but I, I left my comfort zone, became a podcast host, you know, and became a coach and life is so much better this way. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. And one thing that I also place a lot of value in is how we have the opportunity to tap into [00:25:00] parts of ourselves that we haven’t used in our previous career.

Like for me, I had rarely tapped into my body’s wisdom. Hmm, because, you know, here I was had no idea what I do for fun. I just like work, work, work, and here’s what I’m doing. But when we tap into our body’s wisdom that is already you know, our gifts and talents that we are given, we all are good at something naturally without having to go a core.

So without having to have a degree to, to do it right. And that’s what we want to call back and enrich our current lives with. And if we don’t slow down and allow that process of finding out what our natural talents and gifts are that’s yeah, nothing’s going to change. Right. Did you have trouble slowing down to do that?

How did [00:26:00] you do it? How did you do it? So it started with a commitment to myself because I, I had actually learned for example, to meditate as a teenager, but it was mostly for, you know, handling stress at school or in work and all of that. That’s how it was presented to me back then. But I did pick it up meditation practice I had, and I also had learned before kids to do, I went to yoga classes and things like that.

And I felt great, but then I, I got so busy at work, so I put the yoga aside, but I picked that back up. And once I got into this point of no return feeling like this is the direction I’m going, I made a commitment to myself to slow down and pick the meditation up, pick the yoga up and, and create space in my life for that.

And that. That was the turning point opening me at myself up [00:27:00] to start discovering myself my, my true essence back again. Was it hard for you to sit quiet and medic quietly and meditate? Yes. Yes. And I want to say also for anyone who’s tried meditation and think it’s it’s not, for me. It is, it can be for you because there’s a lot of myths of meditation out there that it needs to be like, you have to have an empty mind, like who has an empty mind.

Nobody. So it’s there is this time. Meditation can look and feel different for everyone. But the, the essence of it, the point is to spend time with yourself and your soul and, and hear what’s going on. And yes, it was very difficult for me to change this, but it started with me changing my mornings, doing it in a realistic [00:28:00] way, because often we have these big plans, right.

Oh, going to be so wonderful. And it’s going to happen in two weeks time, right? Yeah. And I’m going to, I’ll be meditating for an hour every morning. I’ve got time, so that’s not, that’s not going to work. Right. And that’s part of what I help others with now to, to help others to feel that the changes that they want to make in their lives, it feels realistic.

It’s ha it gives practical relevance. Grounded results instead of some lofty goals that maybe in three years, I can’t know. It’s it’s to break down to something that you actually love doing and that you want to do the next day. Yeah. Usually we don’t stop until like, I love this practice. I love it. I want to go back to it.

Right. That’s that’s what we’re looking for because so many people are going to the gym [00:29:00] for example, and hate and hate it. Yeah. And no, I, I love. To watch my clients really like, oh, I can’t wait to go back to my practice tomorrow. And it’s like that. That’s the gold. Yeah. That’s awesome. And when you say sitting by yourself, I know you don’t mean, but I just want to clarify it.

I’m pretty sure you don’t mean like watching a good movie on Netflix. No, no, this is, you know, when I say that it’s so important to spend time with yourself and your soul, it is quiet time with yourself, whether it’s out in nature, in a place that you love spending, or maybe have missed spending time.

And whether it’s in your in a room that you have that you love, or if you don’t have a room that you love making the commitment to make a little corner in a room that you love with your thanks. That makes you feel good. Yeah. So it is really to say that. [00:30:00] And contemplate, which is, which is something that we rarely do.

And re we often do it like a late at night when everything else is done, but then we don’t have the, so it is that okay, I’m going to prioritize my, my own time and it’s going to be high up on the priority list in my day. And that’s what changed it radically for me too. And then if you mess up miss a day, whatever, don’t beat yourself up just right back in, just kind of there’s a day tomorrow,

too hard on ourselves. Sometimes too. And then yeah, the softer approach is, is more of a welcoming approach too, so we can all use that. Definitely. You had mentioned the seven inner shifts. And I don’t know if you want to cover them [00:31:00] all. I know you want people to read the book, but you could highlight a couple things.

Yeah. I mean, I can, I can do the short version and I know this, there are some, some really good ones in here that you may appreciate too. And as I mentioned, the first shift is really to go from, get out of your comfort zone, into making a commitment to yourself and that’s, without that nothing gonna be different.

Right. And the second shift then we go to from feeling disconnected from yourself to getting curious and increase your self awareness about yourself. And, and that’s not about like what you do or what friends you have it is to learn about how you actually are running energy. For example, each of us have a unique energy imprint.

That drives how we approach the, our lives. And we can learn about [00:32:00] that. Sorry. I see, I hung out with my my, my five-year-old grandson.

I got with my five-year-old grandson and he had a cold and I got Easter. Yeah, I get, yeah, I I’ll continue. I can’t emphasize enough how important it is to gain self awareness. And that’s also what a coach is trained to help you navigate, going to those places where you actually can learn about yourself and how you are approaching life now and how you may want to evolve what you want to evolve into.

So, and of course it’s not a flip of a switch, right? It’s a involves a lot of curiosity. In that process. Yeah. And that’s a coach, doesn’t tell you what to do or what to think, but a coach might ask an empowering question or ask, you know [00:33:00] is there another way of looking at this, you know, things like that, you know, helping you realize, ah, cause so many times we just get, like, one of the comments down here was let me see, let me pull that up.

Yeah, it is. It’s harder to see through the challenges when you’re in the midst of them, especially when they’re really hard things going on. Yeah. And just having another opinion or asking a question that makes you go, oh, I didn’t, I didn’t even think of it that way. And so when we’re under stress and we’re only seeing things a certain way, coach can help us, you know, stop and.

Calm down a little bit. And you know, like one of the things we learned in AIPAC is, you know, stress is like a finger in your ribs. If you’re explaining something that you really love and you talk all about it, then try to explain it with the finger in your ribs. It’s distracting. It hurts. And, and that’s what stress does.

And so when you’re under stress like that, and you’re go, go, go, you can’t really just [00:34:00] see other options that are right in front of you, right? Yes, very much so to a challenge may look like a challenge, but there might be an opportunity in there too. And it is to find that nugget because there’s always additional energy in that challenge that can be turned around.

Now, another shift that is in the book is also to shift from being codependent on either people or situations into becoming solve. Mm. Hmm. And that’s up to, because so many times we feel stuck because we are attached to other, our past or people that we are around. We, we are just not feeling sovereign as an empowered individual and, and you know, that’s where the patterns and the habits come into play and [00:35:00] becoming aware of those patterns and habits.

And we can release that energy of being codependent and watch others in our, our, our immediate families that are like, can so see the codependency between two people, right. But we all are codependent in some shape or form to either situations or people. But part of this is to really step into your own power and that’s, that’s unimportant and becoming.

I think that that’s really challenging for me right now in with my adult children. Because sometimes some decisions that they might be making, I’m like I don’t know. And yeah, letting go of your adult children letting go of the patterns is something that I’m working on now that I’m aware of.

And I’m like, oh yeah, that’s what’s happening. And that happened you know, 10 years ago too. And I can see other times when it happened, so I want to stop that pattern. [00:36:00] Yeah. So it’s, it really is to become self-aware about it first, but then releasing that either behavior or energy that is attaching us to situations where people it’s so important to put ourselves at the top of the mountain of our own lives, but for women.

So that can feel selfish, right? You know, I’m the mother I’m supposed to do this, this and this, or I’m, I’m the boss. I’m supposed to do this, this and this, but yeah. Can you give some examples that helped drive some of your points home, like about the codependency or, you know, some of the other seven inner shifts maybe from your life or, yeah, I think if we hone in on the codependency part is identify relationships that you have currently that makes you feel restricted or contracted in some form.

And it, sometimes it takes, [00:37:00] you know, how do I feel after I interact with this person, it takes paying attention to that. Notice what you’re noticing. Yeah. You’re kind of feeling stressed or restricted in some form after having interacted with somebody that means. You are compromising some part of yourself, you feeling that frustration or the resistance.

So there’s an opportunity to release that, right. Pat know what your thoughts are. Yeah. And sometimes our thoughts, we think that that’s the only way to look at this situation. Yes. And often it comes through relationships that we’ve had for a long time and immediate family comes to mind. Right. But there is definitely opportunity to release co-dependent patterns.

Right? No doubt about it. Now, one thing I really want to mention too, is the fifth, fourth shift, which is [00:38:00] very mind driven to, you know, we are often in a mode of learning. We want to learn and learn and learn the next you know, core. So we want the next, a new shiny object, the next retreat, or the next book, or the course and everything.

Right. That’s me. That was me. And it’s still something that I, I noticed it’s like, oh, well maybe I should do that. Or I should do that. Or there’s another book I should read and I should read that. Yeah. And we often stay in that mode. We stay in it, it accumulates up here because when we learn all the time, it stays often in our mind and we process it that way.

I mean, I have a huge bookshelf with self-help books. Right. But it’s, the shift itself is actually to embody what we learned. Becoming that. And that’s a chapter in the book, how to [00:39:00] shift that mode of learning and take all of that and embody it and become it because that’s when the true transformation happens.

How do you do that? So it, it means that we have to you know, see our pattern first in the learning kind of, we want the new shiny object all the time and step back and again, slow down. What is it that I’ve learned? How am I going to integrate that in my every day? So it’s a process of being very conscious and of course we choose what of everything that we’ve learned.

Do we want to bring into our new life? Right. Is it to be more creative on a daily basis? I mean, we read in a book, it’s great to be creative every day, but what do we do with it? [00:40:00] Right, right. So that means that, for example, in that simple example, how am I going to ensure that I am picking up that creative spark every day and that could look different for everyone.

Right. And that takes that a little learning experience. Like what works for me is the question that most people are not asking ourselves because we want to find the quick answer in a book or take the next course that tells us what to do, but this. Different it’s to come up with the answer ourselves.

Like, what is it that lights me up? When am I feeling the most creative in my life? And that’s what we expand on. And we have to come up with that answer ourselves. So books and you know, of courses or inspirational leaders influences can be awesome. But the question like is this really, for me, that is [00:41:00] the question that we’re forget often forget to ask ourselves.

Yeah, that’s a really good point. We just add it to our should list list of things that we should be doing and feel bad that we haven’t done all of these things in addition to everything else we’re supposed to do during the day. I can’t remember the name of the book. But it was about how I think, especially women are always learning, never feeling like they’re ready for that promotion or never feeling like they’re good enough.

They have to learn one more thing and study up on one more thing and read another health self-help book when really we do have what we need. Yes, absolutely. And that’s when we turn, which is the next shift. When we turn a logic into. And that’s, that’s really, when we start to tap into that wisdom that we already have, we don’t need to take another course.

We don’t have to get that degree for it. It’s something that we have [00:42:00] been bringing with us sometimes through lifetimes. And that’s what I personally have tapped into now as I work done the work I have in terms of tapping into more of my intuition and that’s part of what I was really good at in the past, because it came naturally to me, I didn’t have to kind of go a course in, in being an intuitive.

I just, it just opened up and and that might be something else for somebody else, a talent or skill that you just kind of feel natural with from the start and I’ve come across things like that in my life now. Huh? How did I learn that? I don’t know. It’s just, I’m just doing it right. That’s what we want.

Right. We want to bring back those hidden treasures within ourselves because we all have them. We all have. What’s unique about [00:43:00] ourselves. Yeah, we do. And then, and that’s important to not compare and say, well look what she can do. And I can’t do that. I’m not good enough. You can do something that, that person can’t do.

Everyone has their own unique gift. And that’s the, that’s the awesome part of, of this slowing down and listening to your heart and your intuition, and in discovering that about yourself, instead of focusing on everybody else and what they have start to get to know yourself and what you have. Yeah. And now we’re getting into the good stuff.

You know, the, the shift number six, we’re almost at the end here is you know, the pattern or the shift from going from, as we’ve talked about this whole show around being the, the pusher. So to say, I’m going to go get, I am going to, because I can [00:44:00] see the outcome, I’m going to get it and have a plan.

And we know that we want to plan one to 10. Here’s the first step and the next step. And so on taking that to go into what I call manifesto to manifest, which is more the energy of allowing and seeing and noticing those synchronicities that leads us down. A path of what is our true self, because the, the, what I’ve learned is that if I listened to and notice these signs that come in front of me, such as being led down to become a professional coach, that will never lead us down the wrong path, because in our world of pushing and you know, I’m going to go get that.

It’s got to have to look this way for it to be for me, it has this duality about it. [00:45:00] I said, the ride, is it wrong? I am, I’m lots of self doubt in that space, but in the space of an, in the energy of manifesting. There is no right or wrong there it’s just is right. And that’s the, that’s kind of when we were getting into that ease and flow and life, when we shift from being pushing ourselves through to manifesting.

Yeah. Can you give an example of how that worked in your life? Oh, I have so many examples. I mean, just as an example of what we talked about any of my business decisions that I’m making currently, whether it’s, I am going to write a book or and invest in some, something that would enhance my business.

For example, I go completely by signs and synchronicities and [00:46:00] signs and how I feel. It’s not whether it’s recommended by somebody or whether it’s a, you know, I look at somebody who’s had tremendous success with it. Now I completely go by how did this come into my you know, sphere? How did this come into my energy?

And if it’s coming in through a, what I call a synchronicity, we know that is, is when, when the universe aligns right with our own path, that’s how I make decisions today. You don’t pull out the data. I don’t, I don’t pull out the data as much. I don’t lead with the research. I don’t lead with the pros and cons I don’t lead with, is this going to look good?

I lead with this. This feels good. This this make me feel good. And how did this come into my, my [00:47:00] attention? That’s how I know if something is right for me today. I love that. I remember three years ago when I retired, I was walking in a park with a friend of mine and she was a big fi I knew one of the things that I knew I wasn’t doing when I, I knew I wasn’t feeling my feelings.

I couldn’t name my feelings. Like happy, sad, mad, whatever, but not really named my feelings. I didn’t know. And I think there’s a lot of people like that. And she would say, what do you feel about she’d ask, what do you feel about something I’m like, I don’t know what I feel about it. I know what I think about it.

And so I’ve really been working with coaches and with my journaling and with myself, you know, I have this little cheat sheet of all the feelings too is how I started too. So I could start to need. What I’m feeling because that’s so important for, I think [00:48:00] leading a purpose-driven life, right? And, and for creating a life that you really love living is knowing what we’re feeling and knowing our thoughts and, and how that’s contributing to our feelings.

Because our subconscious mind doesn’t, it, it goes by our feelings a lot. Right. You could probably explain that more than me. Yeah. The, our emotions are really can be energy in motion. Yeah. Emotions are great. However, it’s in that still space of our true self that we know what’s right and wrong for us.

It’s not in the emotional wave because, and this is what I was eluding to before we all have a different energy makeup. Some people. I have this emotional wave that we have to wait out to make the right decision. Some people have an energy of that can make decisions in an instant. And it’s [00:49:00] important to know who you, who, how your energy works that way.

Because if we go by emotion, because I’m emotionally, my decision-making is, is emotional. And I know that I can not make a decision in an instant. I have to ride out the emotional wave, become neutral and then make the decision because otherwise I can be at an emotional high. And it’s just because I’m so excited about it, right.

And it might not be right thing for me, but each person has the opportunity to learn how you work. That. And if you, somebody who can make decisions in an instant, you know, that you can trust that. And it’s all about increasing that trust in your own reaction through your body, because the mind wants to make up all these strategies, options like this or that, or dah, dah, dah, all the self-doubt that can do [00:50:00] that.

So instead we can learn how to listen to our true self and, and yeah. Trust that decisions are right for us. Do you journal? Is that something? Oh, absolutely. Yes, this is, this is one of the practices I teach intuitive journaling, which is very different from, you know, keeping a diary or so intuitive journaling is how you have a stream of consciousness basically.

That comes down on a page and it comes with letting go of you know, how things look, how what’s on the page. Anything like it, it takes a commitment to let your mind and soul come down on a piece of paper. I’ve done it for many years. I teach it to every client I have because that you can learn so much about yourself through intuitive journaling.

So, yes. On your question, [00:51:00] absolutely. It’s essential. So you have them sit down and just write whatever comes up for like what a certain number of pages or so I, I often recommend to ha excuse me, a journal available after meditation and, and really start put the pen to paper and not set a timer. If you want to have a timer at least five minutes and just let it go and write whatever comes up without editing.

And but in conjunction with meditation is, is the most powerful I’ve found. And I now channel basically that way I, and in part that’s how I wrote the book. Wow. So explain channeling. We’re getting into the good stuff. Yeah. Channeling everyone can change. And I I’m a hundred percent sure of that.

And [00:52:00] it’s, it’s when we can let go of our mind and be completely tapped into our soul tapped into our true self and our spirit guides who are also there to help. And, and I channel my spirit guides as well, and I can have a conversation with them and my mind is completely out of the way in those situations.

And everyone can learn that, but it often starts with allowing yourself to kind of loosen the grip on your own boundaries a little bit and loosen the grip on your expectations. First of all, because I’ve found that’s the key that we have to be very. Kind to ourselves and not get in there with the judgmental inner critic or mind in everything we do.

And when we can learn that through intuitive journaling, we can learn that in daily life as well, [00:53:00] and not trying to just make it happen right. The way we think it should happen. So for example, when I wrote my book, I did a lot of free writing and without a structure to begin with, and that’s how most of the essential content came down.

And of course at some point I had to kind of, okay, we need a structure to this, but in the, in the beginning phase, I, I really had a free flowing session with myself often to bring the essential content down. Yeah. So. What are a few things that you’ve learned about yourself since you stopped being a scientist and started being a coach and an intuitive and everything, what have you, what have you learned?

I, I’ve learned about myself that I’m a very old soul and most of us are that are here now, including everyone that’s listening, we have so [00:54:00] much knowledge, wisdom within ourselves that we, we have just no idea what we can do. And I think that’s where the insight and the seven shift we get to the seven shift here is that when we shift from being, seeing ourselves as individuals, individuals like I’m here, you were there.

And start to become multidimensional in the sense that we, we share energy with our environment, with everyone around us. And that is really what I’ve learned about myself, how that I am an an important part of what goes on on this earth right now. And I’m not over here and you’re over there. We’re all together, especially when we learn about energy, that becomes very evident.

Yeah. So I think bottom line is I’ve learned that [00:55:00] I’m so much more than just the, a box I put myself in before. I love that we got a question here from a guest. Do you think you might be channeling your inner self? Absolutely. Yes. Because our inner self, true self, whatever you want to call it, when we do that, I’m firm believer that our heart energy is really our most powerful energy and it is connected to what I just talked about, the multidimensional aspects of ourselves, which are connected to the universe, like everything around us.

So I’m, yeah, it’s a yes. To your question. I am channeling my inner self and because that’s the, that’s the pure, most purest part of ourselves, right. When we have removed all the filters of [00:56:00] assumptions and you know, past happenings traumas, things like that. When we, when we are lifting the veil and behind all of that, we all.

A pure soul and that’s, everyone can connect with that and feel your inner power, basically life force. What are we want to call it? If we connect with that, we wouldn’t be insecure. PV like powerful, excellent, enormously powerful. Yes. And I’ve felt you know, that unconditional love and in channeling with my higher self, my guides like that feeling of being part of everything, that is, that is what we’re made of.

And that’s what we’re where we can create. Like, it’s very much the same feelings [00:57:00] that we have when we’re at our most creative state. In flow and all that connection between the more we can tap into our creativity, the more we open the door to, to our inner self or true self or the universe, whatever we want to call it.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, let’s wrap this up and I want to just put here your book again, case people want to order it wisdom beyond what you, what you know, how to shift from being driven by the mind, to living from the heart and intuition, and you can get it from your website. Arika sullivan.com and you also, which we didn’t get to talk about.

I’ll have to have you back again at some point you’re you also have a podcast and you can get to that podcast from your website. It’s new, new light living podcast. See yourself in a new light. I love that. Thank you so much. Awesome. Emily, thank you so much for this beautiful [00:58:00] conversation. I loved it. I learned something from every single one of, I guess I’m coming up on three years of, of podcasting.

So if I’m going to have a three-year celebration on May 25th, and I think it’s going to be also the 200th episode. It’s kind of weird. The 200 episodes on that Wednesday, May 25th and three years. And That takes something to stick with doing a show like this for three years. You probably know that, I mean there’s times where like, ah, it’s it can get a little challenging, but I just love it.

I can’t give it up. I just love it. I love talking with my guests and learning, learning, and I appreciate everybody who tunes in and joins us in the chat. So thank you everybody who joined in the conversation for some people that were on Facebook, it showed up as Facebook user. So I’m not really sure who that is until I get on Facebook and they could even be people on your channel to you’ll.

You could go and look where you’re [00:59:00] streaming it as well. So thank you everybody for watching tonight for engaging in the conversation for, for learning with us. I appreciate all of you and I hope to see you next week as well.

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